Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. As for Diane, give me a break. You are right. But for what it is worth, I believe she tried to kill her 3 kids. it also isnt right that the rules get to keep being changed after the fact as far as how often one may apply for parole. In fact, what investigator Tracy had written in his notes is that the heart monitor jumped because of excitement or intense fear. As a suggestion, I would love to see a like or dislike button for each comment. Her husband James Krauseneck was charged with her murder in November of this year. Halo 4. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. In addition, the children were suffering life-changing physical and mental trauma, which would take years to heal. I hope this would never fly these days to separate wounded children from the only family members they have. Sad situation. Diane herself stated Cheryl was asleep on the front floorboard completely covered up with Dianes jacket how the hell did a stranger or a hitman(one of Dianes OTHER stories) KNOW Cheryl was there. It is normally done (in fact in many jurisdictions, can ONLY be done) by going through the process in a different state or county then the one the applicant works with. Regina, I love your comment! Makes no difference to me. During the process of the termination (which can take the whole 2 years in question, with appeals) the court is mandated to find family to take the children. Now she claims she was dating an FBI agent at the time, was holding some top secret pictures for him, and she was on the road to meet someone to pass them off, at the instruction of her FBI boyfriend. This is what I try to do when I research a case that was deemed to be a slam dunk. It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. Another conflict of interest. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. She even became a surrogate mother to make money and provide two parents the opportunity to have a child. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? The most recent tape of her daughter is not admissible because it is never allowed to bring out tapes that were obtained this way. I am not saying she is innocent. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. He had an attorney, Fred G. Campbell Jr., send us a letter denying our request and telling us: You are legally, as well as factually, a stranger to them. Who does he think he is? They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information Yet that didnt stop Knick from asking Mr. Frederickson for a job and for Dianes hand in marriage (Appendix 81, page Case History Page 25). I am not biased. I do not post rude comments. Yes, isnt it shocking that some people would voice that a faulty investigation does not matter? It is also very is to clean. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. So they did everything in their power to slant the media and the public in their favor. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Dianes story does not contradict that. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. All of it is explained in the blog you didnt bother reading. Almost from day one, Diane was perceived as a cancer they had to remove. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. She was no mother of the year, I will grant them that, but a trial is supposed to be based on evidence. During closing arguments, Fred Hugi said that the murder weapon used by Diane was a Ruger, and the state had the model number and the bill of sale. What I believe doesnt matter at all. Her persona allowed them to build this ironclad narrative when in fact, it was far from definite. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. DA Pat Horton declared early in the game to the local paper that the search for the bearded stranger was not very high on their priority list.. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? They checked her shoes and they were clean. Also, I agree he does look a little like the actor who played Fred Hugi but I think it might be a coincidence. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. Meaning it was unlikely she was the shooter. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced: Why is it not admissible? No excuse there. You can click here to read about the case of Alice Crimmins during which the lead detective was heard telling the other cops before the bodies of the children were ever found:You take the husband, Ill take the bitch.. Those cases shouldnt have been in the same court let alone presided over by the same judge. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? woman quot~ unquote, do you remember anything like that? Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. Diane, of her own admission, had plenty of affairs while she worked at the Post Office. They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. I am interested in the truth. The DA that put away their mom is not an appropriate placement choice. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. $20.00 at Gamestop $37.01 at Walmart $59.99 at Best Buy. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. The Parole Board had an obligation to parole Diane between 1998 and 2002 if she could provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. It was writtenrepeatedly in the daily notes that the children were happy to see their mom and asked for her. I just read your opinion on the Pamela Smart case and the Scott Peterson case. Jul 3, 2022; fotomontajes de amor para dos personas; Comments: pete walker complex ptsd website; They never found the gun and she showed no signs of having fired one. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. Seems like she was her worst enemy. They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. Diane was right-handed. Her attorney, James Jagger, did a poor job for Diane. Guilty or not, we should know better than to use the justice system as a psychic tool when theres not enough evidence. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. 4. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. Spiritual advancement and atonement? 1. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb. I dont believe there was a CK. I like the way you keep an open mind about Diane herself and what she may or may not have been going through mentally. Its a dangerous proposition when a lack of due process becomes acceptable because they know she is guilty. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice systemnot each individual case. I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. Click here to read the complaint. Why was no one in the family given the right to adopt them. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. How one of them lied on the stand about ballistics? A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. Seriously. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. I was raised by an evil narcissist and have not only seen this kind of behavior before, but I have seen the face of the devil and it is a look of pure evil that gives me the creeps. It appeared rigged: Rigged? Anyways. Her father also insisted shetry to help catch the shooter. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Open ended sentences like this are meant to provide a means of control and public safety when considering dangerous offenders who may pose a continued risk to the public. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. The whole case is crazy. At first I thought she did it, now I made further research and I dont know what to think. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. Q. They are set in stone and people refuse to see it any other way. ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! They played the tape in the courtroom, and the fact that Diane did not break down but tapped her foot to the music, was supposed to be another proof of her guilt. The flesh and muscle had been cored three days earlier, but the steel plate and bone graft could not be effected for two weeks (a precaution against infection). Children imitate their parents every move. So, why didn't Steve Downs get custody? They believed the testimony of her former boyfriends who were far from stellar individuals. 2. We, who watched her parole hearing a few years ago prayed HARD that she wouldnt be set free, know she is guilty. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. And thats fair enough. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . Of course. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. According to Oregon law, this would have to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Diane provided both. They were put in an impossible situation. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. Conflict of interest on steroids!! If they could not find the gun or any trace of a shooting on Diane, and you think shes guilty, it would mean she had an accomplice. Criminalist James Pex was pretty clear about this. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. I am also engaged in other wrongful convictions that have taken place within the US. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. And she would have been under supervision. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support. It is not a run of the mill case. This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? But Ann Rules utterly biased account is an insult to investigative journalism and there seems to be very reasonable doubt here. So many of the cases Lise writes about on this blog either have no forensic evidence that supports the verdict or have very misleading forensic evidence that may or may not support the verdict, depending on who is interpreting it. My opinion of why Mr. Hugi adopted Christie and Danny was to seal their lips. The next day, on June 16, 1983, CSD terminated Dianes visitations with her children altogether. Page 10 of Case History. There were good reasons to look at this mother, but the detective admitted on the stand that they stopped looking at anyone else after two weeks and the stranger on the road became a joke. I am a firm believer of where there is smoke there is fire. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. Danny was the product of an affair. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. A long long time ago. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports. That wasn't all that stood in their way, as Diane eventually ran away from home. Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it: opinion, not fact Her lover and former husband testified against her but it did not represent evidence but character assassination. Every single one. The proverbial expression It takes two to tango applies here. Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. 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